I couldn't help this ..I was just finishing the previous post about Gaza, and I just saw hundreds of pieces of people all over a big area of land...That used to be their Houses..!!!!! 33 in Lebanon. Just now!!!!! Pieces.. burnt!
Anyone wants to say anything about mistakes better go to another site..
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from what i have seen and how i lived..i think Isarel is evil.
sorry to offend you. Thanks for reading the blog
Naj ... "upset" is most certainly NOT the most fitting word for how I feel! I am apalled, disgusted, sickened, horrified, worried sick, my heart is torn to pieces ... these kind of idioms get closer to how I feel. My prayers are with the people, the people of Iraq .. and with YOUR wonderful people! STAY STRONG Naj ... WE'RE WITH YOU!!
No noam, the Muslim world per-se is NOT racist and evil! You've got to get some facts on the groung straight - besides, don't you recognize yeet that this war is NOT AT ALL about these two kidnapped soldiers?? Don't you recognize yet that is was planned? Pre-programmed? That they waited only for a fitting situation to justify the start?? Anyone askes about the soldiers still? What's on the agenda is Hizbullah .. and destroying, destroying, destroying - and killing, regardless whom! What do you expect? Hizbullah to fold arms and sit still?? Would you?
After the horrid crimes Israel committed and still committs it will be VERY difficult for you as people won't want to see ANY Israeli anymore but I'd ask you to - one day - have the guts and get to KNOW Muslims! Sit, ask questions and LISTEN! Do NOT go to preach the Zionist ideology and how great your country is .. but LISTEN to THEIR stories for a change - and LEARN!
And ... learn about REAL Islam ... and only THEN judge!
Naj ... sending you LOTS of love!!
our hearts and minds are with you every day that you live this crime.
Noam ... I will! Just give me a day or so ... it's after 02:00 and I'm too tired now!
i love munich, I look forward to hearing from you. naj and nazir, I know many Israelis and they are (mostly) not evil, they are good people who genuinely want peace and only do evil things when they feel they are being attacked and have no choice. I hope you try to understand their thinking -- which is not evil or racist -- the same way I am trying to understand muslims. Only by understanding each others' points of view can the cycle of violence ever end (though I doubt it will).
PLEASE VOTE
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/15/mideast/index.html
dear Noam,
i highly respect your opinion but let me say that saying that "Muslims are racist" is definately a generalization and reflects much about the stereotypical view of Islam and Muslims in the World and especially in the West. what i am saying here is i think u are viewing things from one perspective. my advice is: listen, read and know others and don't be judgemental. we all know that not all isaelis are evil and i assure you that not all muslims are evil either. but also i stress that there are good muslims. what many are doning is looking at the empty part of the glass and most importantly, from their own perspective.
why muslims send missiles to tel aviv? my answer is: if there is no israali occupation, israel won't be hit.
i'm gazan, lived in the west bank and went to visit my family in gaza and got stuck there for a long time. i have never sent missiles to tel aviv, never were active politically but during this experience of being stuck there, all my future was threaten. i lost a lot, including my work and was threatened to lose my schoarship. now i considered this an expereince and it didn't change the fact that i wanna live in peace. but believe me this bad expereince of mine doesn't compare to those of who got their houses demolished and their loved ones bruetally murdered, adding to the fact that people react to traumas differently. as a result many lose hope in life and start thinking of fighting back. this is how israel indrectly creates a bomb inside every single palestinian.
stay in peace
Dear Noam, it is so hard not take sides sometimes. but in this case, i believe that the key thing is information. How much you know about realities of both lives matters so much. I know that i can listen and relate to Israelis who are in Israel, because both of us know what we are causing to eachother. The difference is what gets to the world. even the extremists in Israel, i understand, believe it or not, their extremism. That doesnt mean that i agree with them.
If you are genuinly trying to undertsand then dont start with statement such as "Muslim Racists" becuase this alone doesnt allow me to even start a conversation with you. this itself has so many problems with information and even general knowledge about the area.
Hope you stay tuned..
Best
Noam ... FINALLY I found you - I didn't know anymore which blog you were on!
I have the distinct feeling dua' did the job already ... I can agree to him at least 99%!
The CORE of the problem, only to reiterate, is the occupation - I am talking 1967! Palestinias - since then - are robbed of thge left over land piece by piece, depossessioned, humiliated, squeezed in smaller and smaller places, robbed of their means of living ect.ect. - that ALL and a whole number MORE facts pushed them, or I should say MANY, to a brink or edge of an abyss that they say: we have nothing anymore to lose - so why not pay our tormentors back with whatever weapon we have - and the ONLY they have is their own body! What comes on top that almost every singly Palestinian family has either someone in prison (NOT AT ALL always rightfully, you should know that - OR someone close killed by the IDF. ALL THAT TOGETHER in one pot - stir well ... and the agression to burst combined with bottomless frustration and pain is the outcome! Do you understand NOW? Can you NOW agree the occupation and constant humiliation are the CLEAR reasons?? You would do just the same, rest assured ... and so would MOST of the people outside!
That is the CORE of the problem - solve it, lift the occupation, release prisoners(w.o.blood) and women and children of course, establish a Palestinian state with East-Jerusalem as capital, get rid of all the checkpoints AND this horrid wall, give the Golan back to it's rightful owner ... and I assure you - Israel would have peace! that is NO fantasy Noam ... but reality. If there is afterwards a problem - do NOT shoot ... but talk!
I hope I was able to shed maybe some MORE light on the issue!
Almost forgot:
"oh humankind, We created you from a male and a female, and We made you races and tribes for you to get to know each other. The most noble in the sight of God are those of you who are most concientious." QUR'AN 49:13
"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab: also a white has no superiority over a black nor does a black have any superiority over a white except by piety and good action."
~Excerpt from the last sermon of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Does more need to be said?
If anyone wants to help me understand, I would love to listen and discuss, please email me at noammohr@hotmail.com. I am not looking for a debate, only to ask questions and understand.
bilal, I do not believe that every single Muslim is racist or evil, of course each person is unique with their own thoughts and feelings. I am asking about the Muslim world as a whole, and would never apply such things to any individual. Also, I don't want to suggest that Islam is bad. Every religion can be interpreted for good or for evil, history has shown.
But I still do not understand why the hate and violence seem not just dominant in the muslim world, but to the point where voices against these crimes are completely invisible. I wish someone could show me the groups in the Muslim world who are working for non-violence, peace, and understanding.
I also do not understand why there is so much sentiment focused just on Israel. Why were there no marches across the Middle East when Saddam Hussein killed tens of thousands of innocent Kurds? Or the massacre in Hama by Syria? If it's not racism, then I need someone to explain it to me.
i love munich and bilal, I understand how victims can become angry and full of hate and do terrible things. Just remember that this is just as much an explanation for Israelis' actions as it is for Arabs'.
Let me leave one piece of advice, the same one I give to Israelis. If you want the crimes to end, think about what you can do to strengthen the forces of good among Israelis. The violence and terrorism only create more violence. Many Israelis who once believed in peace under Barak have lost hope, seeing the Palestinians elect a party dedicated to its destruction and to the tactic of killing innocent people. For people who have lost hope, violence is the only perceived solution. I hope you will give them--and me--hope again.
Dear Noam,
Please watch this video to get a better picture of what's really going on in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. It is noteworthy to mention that most of people interviewed here are Jewish. Also this is a couple of years old. Things are much worse now.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7828123714384920696
Also, please visit the link below;
www.ifamericaknew.org
I'm also Najla's friend. I was born and raised in Iran and witnessed war and the destruction it creates. In fact, I along many my contemporaries were robbed of our childhood because of war. I am of both Christian and Muslim descent and grew up among Muslims, Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians. None of us viewed eachother as outsiders. We were all Iranians and we all loved eachother. You should also kow that after Israel, Iran has the largest number of Jewish communities.
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